Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu

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  How many disfellowshipped ones are there in your cong?

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the congregation that i used to go to, there were a lot of disfellowshipped ones that were once part of the cong.

  also, a lot of witnesses here have family members that are disfellowshipped.

  one family has a daughter that the family has been shunning for decades now.

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  Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu

  Good point! I think I have to change my words.

  I mean the ones being shunned, not necessarily only the ones that are disfellowshipped, because that is indeed hard to know.

  Thanks for the comment.
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  How many disfellowshipped ones are there in your cong?

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the congregation that i used to go to, there were a lot of disfellowshipped ones that were once part of the cong.

  also, a lot of witnesses here have family members that are disfellowshipped.

  one family has a daughter that the family has been shunning for decades now.

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  Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu

  In the congregation that I used to go to, there were a lot of disfellowshipped ones that were once part of the cong.

  Also, a lot of witnesses here have family members that are disfellowshipped.

  One family has a daughter that the family has been shunning for decades now.

  There are relatively many of people being shunned here,

  The one that disturbs me the most is the case of a boy from below the age of 18, who was no longer allowed to live at home. He had to leave from his parents after being disfellowshipped. At such a young age...

  For this congregation, of around 110 members, I know of around 10 to 15 people that are disfellowshipped.
  I have to note that I do not know all the 110 members in the congregation, so I am not aware of the complete number.

  How many cases of disfellowshipping do you know about?

  How many families in the congregation in your area have family members that they are shunning?

  What is the craziest and most unfair case of disfellowshipping that you know about?

  I am very interested in the answers.

  Thanks for your responses.
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  Have you ever believed something that turned out to be wrong?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  apart, of course, from the obvious example of believing the evidence-free assertion of the governing body to be god's representatives on earth.

  not to side-step that issue, but i wonder if it might be interesting to relate that huge mistake to other things i've been wrong about and how they compare and contrast with the big one.

  a couple of examples of things i was wrong about:.

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  Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu

  In South Africe there is a myth called The Empty Land Myth

  http://www.sahistory.org.za/article/empty-land-myth

  I don't believe this myth. I believe it is actually true.

  When European settlers first came in South Africa there were only nomadic black people. The first encounter with real black settlements was in the far east of South Africa, over 100 years later than the first settlement of the whites in the west-Cape.

  there were wars with the Khoikhoi and the San but these black people were relatively few and they were the only ones in the whole western area of South Africa, and they had not founded real settlements/villages/towns etc.

  people call it a myth but I still believe that the land was empty when Europeans first arrived. The only real evidence of inhabitants is the nomadic khoikhoi and san people. Nothing more.

  So at this point I do still not accept the myth
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  Being part of the org essential for salvation

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  good evening,.

  i am in search of recent articles in the watchtower, or in other articles that are available on jw.org, that explain that one has to be part of the organisation as a condition for salvation.. i can only find articles on sites other than jw.org that are from before the year 2000. .

  it is for discussions with a jw, so i can only use things from jw.org.. thanks in advance.

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  Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu

  Thanks everybody for the responses.

  it's really helpful.
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  Being part of the org essential for salvation

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  good evening,.

  i am in search of recent articles in the watchtower, or in other articles that are available on jw.org, that explain that one has to be part of the organisation as a condition for salvation.. i can only find articles on sites other than jw.org that are from before the year 2000. .

  it is for discussions with a jw, so i can only use things from jw.org.. thanks in advance.

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  Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu

  Are there more relatively recent articles on jw.org comparable to the one above? I don't know which searching words to use in the WOL
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  Being part of the org essential for salvation

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  good evening,.

  i am in search of recent articles in the watchtower, or in other articles that are available on jw.org, that explain that one has to be part of the organisation as a condition for salvation.. i can only find articles on sites other than jw.org that are from before the year 2000. .

  it is for discussions with a jw, so i can only use things from jw.org.. thanks in advance.

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  Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu

  sir82

  That one is perfect!

  Thank you very much
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  Being part of the org essential for salvation

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  good evening,.

  i am in search of recent articles in the watchtower, or in other articles that are available on jw.org, that explain that one has to be part of the organisation as a condition for salvation.. i can only find articles on sites other than jw.org that are from before the year 2000. .

  it is for discussions with a jw, so i can only use things from jw.org.. thanks in advance.

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  Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu

  Good evening,

  I am in search of recent articles in the watchtower, or in other articles that are available on jw.org, that explain that one has to be part of the organisation as a condition for salvation.

  I can only find articles on sites other than jw.org that are from before the year 2000.

  It is for discussions with a JW, so I can only use things from jw.org.

  Thanks in advance
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  Reasons why I and we can succeed in life without religion.

  by googleTTATT in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am compiling my list of reasons.

  you can add yours if you like to.. 1. religions like telling their members to pay a lot of tithes thereby making their members to be in need and poor..

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  Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu

  Stuckinarut

  (If your post was a response to my post)

  Is tithing not the correct English term? the tithing was taking place in a protestant French church, not with JW's.
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  Does Anyone Know The "Real" Attitude That JWs Have Towards "Inactive Ones"?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does the rank and file or the elders view us as disassociated or disfellowshipped or simply "weak" or possibly a "prodigal son" type?.

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  Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu

  I don't know my current status. I don't know if I am removed as an unbaptised publisher, I have not received any message of that. If I am still official an unbaptised publisher, then I think JW's see me as inactive. The things that I notice is that instead of helping the ones (me) that suddenly stay away from meetings, they get scared and avoid any contact with us. It is really the opposite of what anyone would expect from Christians.

  Sometimes I have received a message from a few people in the congregation, but that was when the CO gave a talk, and they invited me. When they ask why I am no longer coming, I say it is due to personal circonstances. From the elders, it is very silent, not a single one that has asked how things are going. The one that I studied with I told already quite some time ago that I don't believe the org is the channel of God. But I don't know if he has told other people in the cong or that he has kept silent about it. However, quite some people have already removed me from social media since I am no longer attending. I still live exactly the same life as before, I just no longer attend and no longer do ministry. I am not changed.

  They are scared of people that no longer fit into their little box.

  Edit: I am very happy to say that the person that brought me in the org, I am now slowly bringing out. It's a very good friend that keeps associating no matter what and that now slowly sees the errors of the org.
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  How many years did you waste away in the Org?

  by Tallon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in my case; 27 years.

  7 of which were as a ministerial serpent ... sorry, i mean 'servant' ;).

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  Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu

  Compared to everybody that is commenting here, I have been in for only a very short time. In total around three years, of which two years as an unbaptised publisher, never baptised.